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Viewers: Palin was better than expected

By JOHN SKIPPER, john.skipper@globegazette.com

MASON CITY — There were no knockout punches in Thursday night’s vice presidential debate, according to several North Iowans who watched it.

Most of those interviewed by the Globe Gazette said Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin did better than they expected.

Not surprisingly, Democrat viewers thought U.S. Sen. Joe Biden did well; Republicans thought Palin was the winner.

“They coached her really well,” said Gloria Goll of Klemme, chairwoman of Hancock County Democrats.

“I liked it when they were talking about health care and Biden said McCain’s health care plan was a bridge to nowhere.

“I also got tired of her calling McCain a maverick all the time. If there was any surprise in the debate for me, it was that she could answer so many questions.”

De Byerly, longtime Republican volunteer in Mason City, wasn’t at all surprised. “I knew that she would not come into something like this unprepared so I wasn’t worried about that. I was proud of how well she did.

“I didn’t know what to expect but I was really impressed. I would love to have her come to Mason City so everyone could see her in person,” said Byerly.

John Stone of Mason City, Cerro Gordo County Democratic chairman, said Biden gave clear, concise answers while Palin gave sound bites.

“But I have to say she did better than I expected her to do.”

Stone thought Biden showed a side of himself the public rarely sees when he talked about being a single parent raising his family.

Jerry Tweeten of Forest City, who was an alternate delegate at the Republican National Convention, said he was nervous for Palin at the start of the debate but thought she got better as the debate went on.

“I thought she gave a more positive outlook than Biden. He had a lot of facts and figures that will go right over most people’s heads,” said Tweeten.

“She was very genuine and articulate and, yes, she did better than I expected.”

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My thoughts wrote on Oct 6, 2008 7:57 AM:

" Good morning one and all. We tried bombing and destroying without it doing alot of good, how can anyone complain about talking to them with or without no preconditions at all?
You can push that subject for ever but it does not mean that either Pres. will not use very good sense in dealing with the enemy. Something not used in the past four years. "

xvolunteerfireman wrote on Oct 5, 2008 9:32 PM:

" I don't know the exact figures on this, but just because of the fact that we have the privaledge of living in this country, we probably live beter in most ways than 90% of the people on the face of the earth. But to some people it is still is not enough, they want it better than they already have it. What more could we possibly ask for. Take health care away from somebody else that can't afford it so we can have even better health care for ourselves. God forbid that everybody has health care, it might keep the better off among us (not all of them think this way of course) from seeing the doctor first. It's their privaledge you know because they can pay for it, and they all are good people who work hard and take care of their families like they should. The poor don't deserve it because all of them down to the last one are nothing but lazy no good for nothing bums that can't take care of either themselves or their families. What a bunch of bull. Why is it that when someone wants health care for everybody they must be somebody who can't take care of themselves. How narrow minded can somebody get? "

Halos wrote on Oct 5, 2008 8:54 PM:

" bakerryan
Although I disagree with you on the healthcare issue, I agree with you about Ahmadinejad. I have been following stories about him for quite some time. I think the man is certifiably insane and Obama's foreign policy is a bit naive. "

xvolunteerfireman wrote on Oct 5, 2008 8:50 PM:

" NOBAMA
Your statement that I SEEM to know more than anyone else on here is your opinion. If that's what you think it's your problem not mine. If you want to think that way go right ahead. I didn't watch this blog site for a long time before stating my opinions on the issues, so I couldn't tell who supposedly knew more than anybody else, and to tell you the truth I really didn't care. "

My thoughts wrote on Oct 5, 2008 8:44 PM:

" It is so interesting to survey some blogs and see the way they describe the Reps. to a T. Yes, there are two sides to every story, and the gaurantee that your taxes will be used properly and not be given away to people that will not take care of themselves (could you be insulting the many people who have been laid off, no JOB, those who became injured or sick) because they are unable to at the time. You really trying to claim that the Reps are the only ones with a work ethic.
As to the novel idea of taking care of your own. Whats novel about it, most people have always done that, Reps as well as Ind. and Dems.
I checked the general polls and found only one that did not have the Obamanator as you like to call him ahead. I am well aware that can change and I will not self distruct if it does.
As for agreeing with McCain when McCain says something right, Obasma would be an idiot not to agree with him. He is being polite, and his elder yet.

As to the items you mentioned: His wife, just NOW became proud of America? Why doesn't barry the boma place his hand on his heart when the NATIONAL ANTHEW is played? Where is the US Flag on his aircraft? He has a "special" symbol? What??? Is it now a popular thing to disgrace our Nations colors or our National anthem all in the name of "change?" You might think there are alot of people that think the way you do, and maybe in your church or family thats true, but when you shut off Wrestling or NASCAR on your TV, there is another world out there, that most certainly does not think like the Obamanation! "
I am shocked how far behind you are. I feel you have a good education. You know how to research items. Go to Snope and see about the lies told about Obama. I am almost embarrassed for you that you still come up with those items that have been so thoroughly proven wrong.
One more thing, do not start slaming my church. I do not like or watch wrestling or NASCAR. I do get a lot of info from Iowa Public and especially on Friday evenings. Try it. It will keep you more up to date. "

bakerryan wrote on Oct 5, 2008 8:24 PM:

" 1. Ahmadinejad: 2,000 Jews Control the World
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has launched new verbal attacks against Israel, saying Zionist leaders are “germs of corruption” who will be wiped “off the face of the earth.”
Ahmadinejad’s recent comments on the Iranian News Channel were translated and released by the Middle East Media Research Institute on Thursday.
"The Zionists are crooks,” the Iranian leader declared.
“A small handful of Zionists, with a very intricate organization, have taken over the power centers of the world. According to our estimates, the main cadre of the Zionists consists of 2,000 individuals at most, and they have another 8,000 activists. In addition, they have several informants, who spy and provide them with intelligence information.”
This “cadre” controls the world’s financial centers and news and propaganda agencies, and spreads “propaganda as if they were the entire world, as if all the peoples supported them, and as if they were the majority ruling the world,” Ahmadinejad asserted.
"That is a great lie — just like their Jewishness is a great lie. They have no religion whatsoever. They are a handful of lying, power-greedy people who have no religion, who only want to take over all the peoples and countries, and to trample the rights of the peoples . . .
"A Zionist organization with 2,000 [members] and with 7,000 or 8,000 activists has brought the world to a state of confusion. Let me tell them that if they themselves do not wrap up Zionism, the strong arm of the peoples will wipe these germs of corruption off the face of the earth."
Ahmadinejad also claimed that that Zionists “kidnap oppressed, destitute, ignorant people from other countries, and bring them to the occupied lands to serve as human shields."

And Senator Obama wants to sit and have talks with this person with no preconditions? Does anyone but me find that insanely dangerous, and incredibly naive? This person above wants to wipe off from the face of the Earth our closest allies in that part of the world, and probably anywhere in the world. This is very, very disturbing. I had to cut and paste this to show you all the dangers outside our borders. I am deeply concerned and hope that others are too. This nation wants and probably has Nuclear weapons. North Korea provided them the technology, and Senator Obama wants to try and talk them out of it with no preconditions at all?

I pray this doesn't happen, but I have a suspicion that if Senator Obama is elected, we will be attacked, and Isreal will be left with no other option than to attack Iran. This election just doesn't affect people within our borders. I hope and pray I'm wrong.

Ron Paul-08 "

xvolunteerfireman wrote on Oct 5, 2008 8:17 PM:

" NOBAMA
Why don't you just say what you want to say, and stop beating around the bush. "

xvolunteerfireman wrote on Oct 5, 2008 8:07 PM:

" NOBAM
I'll bet that in your long period of just watching this blog sight, you have never seen me blast McCain and Palin like you did Obama and Biden. "

Nobama wrote on Oct 5, 2008 7:59 PM:

" Xvolunteerfireman,

PS. The family is doing good, thanks for asking. I take good care of them, like a man is supposed to do. I hear thats out of fashion now? Is it true? You seem to know more than ANYONE on this board. "

Nobama wrote on Oct 5, 2008 7:57 PM:

" Xvolunteerfireman,

They jumped ship and went to the dark side (D) before the elections and before the arrests......LOL. They still got caught, and the last I heard a Judge could care less about the political affiliations of felons, convicted felons, etc. To them, and to many they are nothing more that criminals associated with the O-zombie.

The reason I say questionable is due to the TOS of the GG board. There are things that can't be said.

Health care is a business, like farming. How about you just open your fields to anyone that is hungry? what would you do if saw people raiding your fields? call the cops. Health care is a business. Its not a Constitutional right. If you want it to be that way, then go through the legal process to get it done and make it the law of the land, but dont raid my paycheck because you fail to provide for your family. I didnt make your kids, you did. I didnt make anyone elses kids but my own and I take care of my own. What happened to that novel idea?

I actually did care enough to post before hand but was busy working, ever hear of that? But, this board has become nothing but an extension of the Obama campaign and there are more than one candidate for the Presidency. I have seen others challenge many people on here and get their blogs removed, Renee is one, Tribe is another. There was another blogger that was getting thier posts pulled too, but I cant remember the name. My point is that there are two sides to every story, and it seems that the loudest heard are the Obamabots and their mantra of change, change, change, change. Tell me what those changes are that guarantee my freedom? That guarantee that my government stays out of my businees. That gaurantee that my taxes will be used properly and not be given away to people that will not take care of themselves because its easier to get that check deposited on the 3rd of the month, than it is to get up off the fourth point of contact and work. It seems that the Obamabots are terrified of a very small, three letter word.....JOB! "

xvolunteerfireman wrote on Oct 5, 2008 7:41 PM:

" NOBAMA
Why didn't you mention all of this on your first blog. So what if they jumped ship, they were still Republicans at the time of their relationship with Rezko. What are you trying to say. They were really Democrats posing as Republicans. Palming them off as being Democrats now just so you can get rid of them as being Republican liabilities to McCain just ain't gonna cut it. If I would not have brought up the subject you would have never came back with the statement they have jumped ship. I'm not blinded by anybody including you. When did Bush (one of the Republicans I mentioned) jump ship and join the Democrat party. Tell both sides of the story when you bring up an issue or your credibility is and should be in doubt. When will you people quit twisting the facts, and start telling the truth. Obama isn't perfect, and neither is McCain. State what the problems are with Obama's character, and give proof. Saying his character is "very questionable" only tells me that you yourself are not sure of what you say. Very junior, very far left is a real good one to. What are the qualifications for not being junior. According to what you say Palin must be a very junior something to. We are a society so that means there must be some socilism no matter what. When the politicians in Washington including the Republicans who are against Obama start paying for their own health care like the millions of us that do, then your statement about heathcare might make sense, otherwise it doesn't. If your job is anything other than being self employed, you don't pay for all of your health care either, your employeer pays the lions share of it, and then passes on to his customers. There are alot of people in the town I live in that have lost their heath care because our biggest employer is having a hard time. I guess they are just out of luck because they can't pay for it now like you can. What a bunch of bull. You talk like health care is a privaledge, and can be taken away from you because you have done something wrong. Speculating that Biden has family issues proves nothing. Nothing but talk. How are your family issues? Are they perfect? I'm not a blind follower (without the ability to think for myself) of anybodys political agenda. I think that you think your candidate has serious problems with his campain, and that is why you have decided to share your thoughts with us now, not because we are supposedely getting bolder and bolder with our opinions on some blog site you apparentely did not care enough to get on before. I'll be glad to here your opinions on any issue any time. This blog site is open to anybody. Upset it to your hearts delite. "

Nobama wrote on Oct 5, 2008 7:15 PM:

" mythoughts,

You speak for the rest of the Democrats in this country? Right now, according the to polls, which are vague at best, with error margins in them, there are millions of people in this country that do not think like the O-zombie, and chant the mantra, "change, change, change."

In politics if you dont deny it, you are agreeing with it, you are very naive aren't you? I belive that Governor Palin wasnt going to let Biden or the Moderator get in her way of saying what was on her mind, there is nothing wrong with strength. Have you ever seen that character or are you waiting for the Government to issue it to you?

And I just checked the CNN polls, its close, very close. I wonder how Barry will do on Tuesday in a town hall debate? He wont have a teleprompter to help him. Im going to do a running tally on how many times he says Hum, uh, lets see.....or the best one yet, I couldnt agree more with you John! I like that one. Can the Obamanator say one complete sentence without saying um, uh or lets see.....?

Lastly, there are alot of people that live close to all of us that believe in God, country, the values our parents raised us on, etc. Those values have been flushed down the toilet in the current selection of the Democratic Party Presidental candidate. His wife, just NOW became proud of America? Why doesn't barry the boma place his hand on his heart when the NATIONAL ANTHEW is played? Where is the US Flag on his aircraft? He has a "special" symbol? What??? Is it now a popular thing to disgrace our Nations colors or our National anthem all in the name of "change?" You might think there are alot of people that think the way you do, and maybe in your church or family thats true, but when you shut off Wrestling or NASCAR on your TV, there is another world out there, that most certainly does not think like the Obamanation! "

NRA wrote on Oct 5, 2008 6:46 PM:

" Just for the record, Biden did go silent for a few days after the debate. He saw his son off to Iraq. Tonight we were informed his mother-in-law passed away so don't take a few more days of his absence as any kind of scheme that he is bowing out. For heaven's sake, the hard core right is suggesting that Palin make an excuse, ie, family matter, etc., so she can be replaced. Only one candidate in this election is having VP problems. "

My thoughts wrote on Oct 5, 2008 6:32 PM:

" Obamabots, thats new and rather cute. I could find a name for the opposition but I think it is too childish to get involved in. No, nothing relegated to praising Obama needed. If it was, you and a few others would never be listed on at all.
I was well aware that McCain was not found guilty. When and where and what for has Obama been found guilty. Why is McCain so pure after being investigated but Obama so unpure. Just wondering? As for the very junior, very far left, very questionable of character, Senator from Illinois, is that what part of America's thinking? The rest of us don't see it that way. We also see things about Obama's challenger, but don't find it so necessary to try to blacken his name every day. I find it strange that you comment on Obama not denying. Does this upset you since you cannot accuse him of lying? HE PUT OUT AN ADD AGAINST MCCAIN. Horror of horrors. McCain would never do that would he? Air brushing? I wondered what one could call the VP's change of subject each time she wasn't sure of the correct answer.
I have no idea where Biden is. You go ahead and dream. Biden will not need to bow out short of illness or his death. Another rather childish thought.
PS I havent checked the polls today, have you? "

Nobama wrote on Oct 5, 2008 5:53 PM:

" mythoughts,

I live in Hampton, married, 3 kids, have the same concerns as you. Did I upset the pecking order of this discussion board? Is strictly relegated to the praise of Obama? I have watched this board for along time, just keeping my comments to myself. But the closer we get to the Election you Obamabots are getting bolder and bolder with the very junior, very far left, very questionable of character, Senator from Illinois. One thing I noticed in Obama's response was that he did not deny the New York Times article this weekend. He just put out an ad against McCain?! No response other than the typical air brushing of the facts that he is notorious for.

To those that think that socialism is a good thing in some degree, remember that when a government official knocks on your door, and says sorry, you gotta go, "eminent domain" rules apply. File your protests at the local sheriff's office. You want medical care, then do what millions of others do any pay for it. Its a business, not a constitutional right. There is ONLY one thing that the Constitution says that the government has to pay for, and that is for the common defense. Read it sometime.

You Obamabots are being blinded. Even the Major Main Stream media New York Times, the most liberal left wing paper in this country, is having doubts. And they were one of the first to push their support. By the way, where is Biden??? Any bets that he has family issues, and will have to bow out, and here comes Hillary!!!!!!! "

Nobama wrote on Oct 5, 2008 5:47 PM:

" The republicans you are refering to jumped ship and went to the dark side (D). "

Nobama wrote on Oct 5, 2008 5:35 PM:

" The only person found not guilty in the Keating Investigation was McCain. "

xvolunteerfireman wrote on Oct 5, 2008 4:33 PM:

" This information about Rezko comes from the same site as NOBAMA'S information about Rezko ( I think.) Rezko has raised money for Republican candidates for office also. He has raised money for the late Rep. Mayor of Rosemont, Illinois Donanald Stephen. Illionois Republican Govrnors Jim Edgar, and George Ryan, and was a co-chair for a multi-million dollar fund raiser for President Bush in 2003. There are some juicy facts about corruption in each ones adminisration except for Bush on this site also. "

My thoughts wrote on Oct 5, 2008 1:25 PM:

" I am sorry I was wrong. It isn't Reeding, it's Keating, the Keating five fiasco.
I could also mention the Washington Post stating on May 08 some interesting items about a federal land swap which ended up being deveoped by Sun Car Development, Steven A Bates, a supporter of McCain. "

NRA wrote on Oct 5, 2008 1:21 PM:

" It seems to me the Rezko thing is canceled by the Keating thing. All sides have sinned. Neither candidate was found guilty of wrong doing, it just "looked" improper. "

xvolunteerfireman wrote on Oct 5, 2008 12:58 PM:

" Are people on this blog really so naive that they think that a man like Rezko gives money to just one of the political parties, and not the other, or has ties to only the politicians in one of the political parties. I'm starting to think that instead of being naive, most people on this blog are more likely in error, or in other words are in the state of believing or are unable to believe what is untrue , incorrect, or wrong. My Father once told me that the people in this country are getting just what they deserve when it comes to our government and the politicians that run it because they just cannot see the forest for the trees. They become so obssesd with just one canidadate that they will believe without doubt that what is said about the other candidate just has to be the truth no matter what. "

my thoughts wrote on Oct 5, 2008 12:47 PM:

" Nobama seems to have come out of nowhere, or was he posting under another name prior to this. Sounds enough like two others to be there triplett.
This Rezko kick sure has taken some over. Now what was the other name, Reeding was'nt it? I wouldn't mention it but turn about seems only fair.
I know there are others who are for Obama but I don't see them slaming McCain with every post they make. I wonder if it has something to do with good manners? "

xvolunteerfireman wrote on Oct 5, 2008 12:07 PM:

" NOBAMA
Concentrate on the year 2003, and politicins in Illinois other than Democrats. "

xvolunteerfireman wrote on Oct 5, 2008 12:01 PM:

" NOBAMA
Why don't you list all of the polititians that Rezko has been associated with, especially when it comes to fundraising, or maybe you would like me to. In other words tell the whole story and not just half of it. "

comon wrote on Oct 5, 2008 11:09 AM:

" My mommy has been gone from this earth for over 30 years so I don't know what it is like to be dependent on mommy anymore. Seems like this BB is based on the Seinfeld show "All about nothing". No real content but just a bunch of back and forth about nothing. No wonder our political candidates for president don't talk about the issues that concern america but just sling mud about the other candidate. I always thought the USA was above that nonsense and was a shineing example for other countries. May God help the USA!!! "

Nobama wrote on Oct 5, 2008 10:58 AM:

" ""In 1990, after Barack Obama was elected president of the Harvard Law Review, Rezmar Corp. offered him a job, which Obama turned down. Obama did end up taking a job with law firm Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, which primarily worked civil rights cases, but also represented Rezmar and helped the company get more than $43 million in government funding and whose former senior partner, Allison S. Davis, later went into business with Rezko and, in 2003, was appointed to Illinois State Board of Investment by Governor Blagojevich at Rezko's request. On July 31, 1995 the first ever political contributions to Obama were $300 from a lawyer, a $5,000 loan from a car dealer, and $2,000 from two food companies owned by Rezko. Starting in 2003, Rezko was one of the people on Obama's U.S. Senate campaign finance committee, which raised more than $14 million. Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama, which Chicago Tribune reporter David Mendelland claims was instrumental in providing Obama with seed money for his U.S. Senate race. Obama has since identified over $250,000 in campaign contributions to various Obama campaigns as coming from Rezko or close associates, and has claimed to have donated almost two thirds of that amount to unspecified nonprofit groups. Those non profit groups are headed by a Columbia University Professor with direct links to the PLO""--Chicago Sun Times.

WOW!!! Everyone, including the New York Times is getting in on the newest game, Obama bashing! Didn't these newspapers originally support him? Maybe they smell a rat too??? "

Nobama wrote on Oct 5, 2008 10:04 AM:

" me2,

As Alaska is a state, the Alluetian Islands are part of Alaska. From certain vantage points in those islands as well as further north, you can see the Russian landmass. Is she stretching it? sure, but Biden has never been into any Home Depot at all like he said in the debate. CNN actually called the THREE Home Depots where the Senator lives and NO ONE can ever remember the esteemed Senator ever being in their store. The restaurant he spoke of closed 15 years ago......... "

me2 wrote on Oct 5, 2008 9:50 AM:

" If you want more of Bush's philosophy of avoiding questions, talking completely off topic, annamosity towards the press, and "I'll do it my way" attitude, then you got what you wanted in the debate. Just one blatant example of how she believes in snow jobs.... "I can see Russia from my doorway". I haven't heard that she lives on St Lawrence Island!... and she must have awfully good eyesight to be able to see over 1000 miles away. Surprised she didn't say she could see Japan, too. "

Nobama wrote on Oct 5, 2008 9:48 AM:

" ctbritt,

And I see on the GG Online Poll that almost 1/2 the readers state that the Debate is almost a dead tie. So, that means 1/2 of North Iowa gets it, and the others are still wondering how much longer it will be before Obama self implodes.... "

Nobama wrote on Oct 5, 2008 9:46 AM:

" ctbritt,

I dont suppose you remember Presidents Carter and Clinton's fantastic accents either?! Venture out beyond the Northern Iowa borders and you will see that many people have accents. Her accent is actually very close to being Canadian, which makes perfect sense. People on the West Coast talk differently than people do in the Midwest, or the East. Easterners speak differently than southerners. If you are judging a candidate on their accents and the way they talk, you are suffering from mild cerebrial hypoxia, which makes perfect sense as well since Iowa is a blue state and blue is the first stage of lack of oxygen. Or maybe, just maybe, you really can't find anything wrong with her actual statements, so you attack the accent and character? Hey, did you see where Senator Clinton, yesterday in Washington, stated that she thinks Obama is NOT qualified to be President?!!! Hmmmmmmm...... "

ctbritt wrote on Oct 5, 2008 9:24 AM:

" Does anyone honestly believe that Palin is ready to be President? I shudder to think of her gotchas, you knows, you betchas, and well gollies in a meeting of foreign leaders. I don't think her unabashed display of her femininity [the winks and eye lash flutters] will be very persuasive. Palin did accomplish one thing, she even makes Bush seem less stupid. "

Nobama wrote on Oct 5, 2008 8:16 AM:

" CNN: October 5, 2008
Washington D.C.

"Senator Clinton stated that Obama is not qualified to be President."

Oops. What about your support of his campaign? I guess you saw the true colors of Obama even after you said you help get him into Office. "

My thoughts wrote on Oct 5, 2008 7:57 AM:

" A perfect example of the saying: the kettle calling the pot black. "

bakerryan wrote on Oct 5, 2008 7:46 AM:

" mythoughts,

this is an open discussion board, I certainly dont need your persmission to respond to your post. you are certainly full of yourself, arent you?

Ron Paul/08 "

My thoughts wrote on Oct 5, 2008 7:09 AM:

" I agree on the duck bit. It fits quite well for someone who is determined to run down Obama no matter what. What I posted was what I found, I didn't make it up. Sorry it didn't please you.
No, I don't baa baa or quack quack. I just decide which of the candidates most fits what I want in a Pres. and vote for him. Neither is perfect and I know nothing about Paul except he has no chance in .....of being the next Pres. My post was not addressed to you, but yours was certainly slamming me. Not unexpected of course. "

NObama wrote on Oct 5, 2008 7:08 AM:

" Let's all remember that Polling numbers are not very accurate when the country is divided.

The Obamabots can talk about a "SOLID" lead by their candidate all they want, but election day is a completely different animal...

This is what Democrats have to look forward to on Election Day:

Early evening polls show Obama with a "substantial lead" in key States, while Barack Supporters begin to shout with GLEE !!!

As the actual voting numbers come in, Florida & Ohio show McCain with a big enough lead to call those states into the red.

Missouri gives their vote to McCain, & it's ALL OVER for the Obamanation...

Barack bows his head in ignominious defeat, & is relegated back to the Senate as a mouthpiece for the Far Left....

He loses his Senate Seat in the next election, & is appointed GRAND WIZARD of ACORN "

bakerryan wrote on Oct 5, 2008 6:03 AM:

" mythoughts,

Now you're and advisor to the New York Times editorial staff?? You are a very busy person, aren't you?! I beleive the the investigative resources of the New York Times significantly outweighs your google searchs to find something to counter with. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck, unless of course its Obama, then its something completely different than a duck. People like you are the number #1 reason that Ron Paul should be the President and not Obama or McCain. You are definintely one of the good "sheep" of the Obama flock, aren't you? "

My thoughts wrote on Oct 4, 2008 9:59 PM:

" MSNBC--"The evidence linking Obama, who was born in 1961, to the two former militants, now in their 60s, remained thin, despite the appearance of a slickly produced, anonymously issued five-minute video titled ‘Obama's Terrorist Connections’ on YouTube that sought to exploit the alleged tie. Obama and Ayers moved in some of the same political and social circles in the leafy liberal enclave of Hyde Park, where they lived several blocks apart. In the mid-1990s, when Obama was running for the Illinois Senate, Ayers introduced Obama during a political event at his home, according to Obama's aides. Ayers, a professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago, later contributed $200 to Obama's state campaign.” "

bakerryan wrote on Oct 4, 2008 8:35 PM:

" MSNBC just reported that Governor Palin and the New York Times both stated that Senator Obama has a close friendship with a domestic terrorist named Ayers. The Obama campaigns response was that they are not surprised by Governor Palins revelation along with the New York Times.

I'm an independant, but I find this troubling, as the Obama campaign did not deny these allegations. "

comon wrote on Oct 4, 2008 5:52 PM:

" Todd has a little maverick in him!!!
That is the in thing now doncha know? "

DaBearz wrote on Oct 4, 2008 3:37 PM:

" So how is it that Todd Palin, an average citizen like the rest of us can ignore a valid subpoena and thumb his nose at the law of the land? "

renee wrote on Oct 4, 2008 12:55 PM:

" Clarification: In my previous post I said "some people don't care about those issues, like Obama .........etc." My meaning was not that Obama does not care about those issues. My meaning was that some people are not as concerned about moral/social issues as they are the economy or other issues, they like Obama, and so that is the way it is, they will consider voting for him. "

renee wrote on Oct 4, 2008 12:51 PM:

" I agree, the Globe has it's rules and they need to be enforced. I had a post pulled and I truly don't know why. One blogger had mentioned that the spin on Sarah was self-inflicted and asked if Obama lied about the bridge to nowhere, and went on to list some other "lies" of Sarah's. Inaccuracies, misstatements and flat-out lies have been attributed to both parties in the television news, other newspapers and in books. The truth is, who really knows what the truth is? I am not dismissing Obama as my candidate of choice because I think he lied, I am dismissing him because he completely conflicts with my views on social and moral issues. Some people don't care about those issues, like Obama and that is what it is all about. We all have our passions, our concerns and our issues that we carry to the polls. When this blogger tried to justify spin on Sarah as self-inflicted by her "lies", I pointed out Obama's "lies" in a very concise list with no profanity, personal attacks, insults, name-calling, NOTHING! It was as appropriate as the list of Sarah's "lies", yet it was pulled. So, I just really don't understand why, and the best thing I can do is to call the GG on Monday and ask for clarification. I am not trying to prove a point, but clearly I just need to know what characteristic of my post deemed it inappropriate to avoid having my posts pulled. Instead of getting all indignant and defensive, I will find out why. "

my thoughts wrote on Oct 4, 2008 12:50 PM:

" I could not fill in if you did need a mom and I would not want to.
I will repeat my question. How does this in any way prove anything about the party?
I have no right to tell you what to do but I can show you up when you are not making sense. "

comon wrote on Oct 4, 2008 10:44 AM:

" Sure sounds like a spoiled brat throwing a tantrum! "

bakerryan wrote on Oct 4, 2008 10:03 AM:

" My thoughts wrote on Oct 4, 2008 9:53 AM:

" "if someone were conservative and had their blogs removed because they voiced their opinions then it only proves their point about the Democratic party. Elitists that can't stand to have their policies challenged" This really lost me. Having a blog removed from the GG proves the Dem. party is elitists and etc.
I am a Democrat. When they removed mine and others blogs they did not think should be there, how does this in any way prove anything about the party. And this constant insistence that the media is biased. Give it a rest.

I can't speak for others, but I already have a mom and you are not it. You have no right to tell anyone what to say or do contrary to your elitist views. "

xvolunteerfireman wrote on Oct 4, 2008 10:01 AM:

" I lean left although not as much as is believed by some on this blog, and I have had a few of my blogs deleted to. It is the GG blog sight and believe it or not they have the right to do it as they see fit. They are also not violating your right to free speach in doing so. If you think it is try suing them and see how far you get with it. "

My thoughts wrote on Oct 4, 2008 9:53 AM:

" "if someone were conservative and had their blogs removed because they voiced their opinions then it only proves their point about the Democratic party. Elitists that can't stand to have their policies challenged" This really lost me. Having a blog removed from the GG proves the Dem. party is elitists and etc.
I am a Democrat. When they removed mine and others blogs they did not think should be there, how does this in any way prove anything about the party. And this constant insistence that the media is biased. Give it a rest. "

vtx1300 wrote on Oct 4, 2008 9:33 AM:

" What was with her winking at the camera and talking like she was from the south.[Joe six pack and you all] what a fake,I'd like to know how she convinced any more people to vote for McCain/Phalin.All I kept hearing was Maverick over an over.Also her Gov.office isn't even in the capitol of Alaska it's close to her hometown, instead of the 600 miles away where it should be,that really sounds like someone who want's to lead. "

willow wrote on Oct 4, 2008 9:20 AM:

" I would recommend that people checkout the Mike Judge movie "Idiotocracy". The movie shows the dystopian future of America where style is rewarded and substance is vilified. I am afraid we will be watering our crops with Gatorade sooner then later. "

comon wrote on Oct 4, 2008 9:13 AM:

" I have had a number of my comments on here deleted and I thought they were pretty mellow. I accepted the fact that the GG considered I stepped over the line in some way. I don't feel it is anything to get wrapped around the axel about. There are also some I see on here that should be deleted but that is just my view so accept that also. It is the GG rag so they call the shots! "

bakerryan wrote on Oct 4, 2008 8:21 AM:

" I wonder why others feel its necessary to tell other to tone it down on thier views? Is it possible that maybe others are as passionate about these issues as you are, and maybe you just dont agree with them so you want them to tone it down? I saw several blogs put out by several people yesterday that magically disappeared after certain others on this discussion board disagreed with them. People in this country still live under a free society, for time being, and are gauranteed that right to express themselves whether it offends you or not. If your sensitivities are that touchy, then maybe its because others responding have facts that you refuse to see or maybe you just dont like to be challenged? Whatever it may be, seeing blogs from others being pulled is only fueling the fires about certain people associated with certain political parties. Honestly, I am an independant, but if someone were conservative and had their blogs removed because they voiced their opinions then it only proves their point about the Democratic party. Elitists that can't stand to have their policies challenged. I for one am glad I am not associated with either but I were to pick one, it most certainly wouldnt be the current Democratic party ticket. "

xander wrote on Oct 4, 2008 7:46 AM:

" come on tribe, settle down and have an ice cold diet pepsi and relax. its a beautiful morning. this blog isn't worth getting all worked up about. go to the national blogs. that's where the real fun is and we are not constrained about who's feelings we hurt and the conversation is awesome. tell the better half hey. obama/biden '08 "

My thoughts wrote on Oct 4, 2008 5:14 AM:

" "you are absolutely so incredibly predictable that its scary. Put out the bait, you bite. Good little fishie that you are. how long will it take for you to get this post removed?" You do see that this refers to you every bit as much as it could to me don't you?
I havn't the power to get your posts removed just as you can't get mine removed.
I think McCain mentioned Kennedy for two reasons. One, because he would most certainly know him after his years in Congress, and two, because it would make people think how wonderful he was to mention a Democrat, good politicing. And three, because he felt he had upstaged Obama with it.
Gitwitit, thanks for so nicely putting what I feel but do not have the finese to state as well as you did. "

Oyeah wrote on Oct 3, 2008 11:05 PM:

" This is the "Best" America has to offer? "

gitwitit wrote on Oct 3, 2008 10:21 PM:

" Brad-you need to tone it back a little bit in regard to your feelings about the Obama/Biden ticket. I understand that you may not agree with them on a lot of issues, but your hostility is really annoying to be honest. To the point of being unproductive. It's ok to disagree, but tell people why you disagree, don't just bash them for bashing sake. From reading your posts, I believe you understand a lot of the issues that the VP's were debating, so I would honestly like to hear what you did not like about Senator Biden's debate? Again, I am an independent and I am only singling you out because you seem to be posting very hostile comments against anyone that has anything positive to say about Senator Biden or Obama.

I think both sides stretch the truth, so I don't buy that as a valid argument like Renee tried to use. Biden did not lie or stretch truths anymore than Palin did.

Of the major issues that they discussed where are your major disagreements with what Biden had to say? What I am trying to figure out is, because this is a blog where you do not need to disclose your true identity, are you just posting to get a rise out of people? It's really hard to tell your intentions. "

trader wrote on Oct 3, 2008 8:22 PM:

" Rkelchim...in the interest of fairness...read what factcheck.org ALSO had to say about BIDEN. There were many problems with his so called facts as well. "

morebrainsthanIneed wrote on Oct 3, 2008 7:58 PM:

" Let`s hope OJ finally gets the room he deserves. "

DaBearz wrote on Oct 3, 2008 6:52 PM:

" Let's raise the quality of this conversation and address the story line instead of the sophomoric sniping against each other. "

zaig wrote on Oct 3, 2008 5:43 PM:

" rkelachim wrote on Oct 3, 2008 4:55 PM:

" factcheck.org rates the debates last night. It's sickening how grossly innacurate some of Palins coments were. She addressed none of the questions proposed at the debate last night and went straight for the overused political cliche's. She offered NOTHING of any substance last night. "

And that makes her different how? "

bradchaffee wrote on Oct 3, 2008 5:35 PM:

" mythougths, chew on this for a bit. CNN just reported that the Cheif Legal Counsel for the Vatican, Roman Catholics, has stated that the US Democratic party is positioning itself to be ridiculed and labeled hypocritical because of its stance on abortion.

So, the Catholic church is involved now. I wondered how long that would take. "

bradchaffee wrote on Oct 3, 2008 5:22 PM:

" Hey comon,

What did I tell ya? the spinmaster has spun. mythoughts, you are absolutely so incredibly predictable that its scary. Put out the bait, you bite. Good little fishie that you are. how long will it take for you to get this post removed?

I was answering a question that was posed to me by someone else, and its a certantity that you or ctbritt will throw your 2 cents in.

So, MYTHOUGHTS, what do YOU think was the reason McCain gave Kennedy accolades? Instill your wisdom upon me OH Great One? "

My thoughts wrote on Oct 3, 2008 5:03 PM:

" I didn't think it made Obama look stupid", but I did indeed think your answer showed some lack of intelligence" and thats pretty easy to do, just let you loose on a topic. "I just think he was showing respect to the man and to their friendship. I could be wrong". Ya, you have been before. Did you see where he was only hospitlized a short while and probably out before the statement was made. Some people might think that was show boating. And Yes, you can count on me to bring to attention weird things on the blog. We don't need to twist anything around, we just untwist the post we read. "

rkelachim wrote on Oct 3, 2008 4:55 PM:

" factcheck.org rates the debates last night. It's sickening how grossly innacurate some of Palins coments were. She addressed none of the questions proposed at the debate last night and went straight for the overused political cliche's. She offered NOTHING of any substance last night. "

gitwitit wrote on Oct 3, 2008 3:59 PM:

" Renee, you are not the first person in America to question Obama on the different items you mention below. I think he has explained and answered questions regarding most or all of those items at one time or another.

I have not read the book so I can't comment further.

Brad-not sure what you mean by your last post. I have heard Rush Limbaugh say that Obama is not ready to lead yet either. Rush explained his reasoning behind it, and if what Rush said holds true, than Obama is not ready and neither is Palin.

It's just to bad that during a time of crisis and importance like this is for our country, that people can't just drop their agendas and do what they think is right for themselves and their country. I hate the fact that there are such deep-seeded affiliations with the different parties, that some people would almost rather agree with what their party is saying, whether or not that is in their best interest. It's kind of a like a sick sporting event, where someone wants their team to win at any cost! "

bradchaffee wrote on Oct 3, 2008 3:03 PM:

" shilo,

being ready is only a term used if it applies to libs/dems. I have yet to hear their definition, but its certainly a standard that they use to judge others, but dont like that same rule applied to them, as evidenced by my Post and Renee's posts being pulled. "

shilo wrote on Oct 3, 2008 2:55 PM:

" To all those who think Sarah Palin isn't ready to be VICE President; look what we had for the past 8 yrs. running America. And he was suppose to be "ready".
I rest my case.
I think she has the "ability" and "intelligence" and whatever else it takes to be "gotten ready".
Would someone care to tell me what does "being ready" intails. "

Renee wrote on Oct 3, 2008 2:54 PM:

" I don't understand! I just posted a blog (very appropriate) simply outling many of Obama's lies....Dad was a goat-herder, grandma is a Christian, his name is Swahili, he has never practiced Islam, etc. and for some reason it was not allowed posting? Frankly, that is not even my gig, I don't vote for the person who has lied the least. I am a social conservative so I go with whoever supports those views. I am not a hair -splitter or a fact finder, but everyone seems to be passing over so many SIGNIFICANT lies! "

bradchaffee wrote on Oct 3, 2008 2:53 PM:

" comon,

""The terrorist are probably really cracking up and trying to decide if it is even necessary to attack the US with all that is happening here. ""

I have already stated that our enemies are anxiously waiting our election and the results. They desparately want Obama, as evidenced by the Leader of Hamas said in an interview with ABC news. And their reason isn't for brotherly love and peace. It's because they know he's inexperienced, they know he's weak, they know he's never held a stance for longer than a week unless it was self grandiose purposes. They are waiting, thats for sure....... "

bradchaffee wrote on Oct 3, 2008 2:48 PM:

" comon,

The other day you asked me why Senator McCain first brought up Senator Kennedy's illness at the Debate. I didn't have a chance to respond.

I can only think that he did it out of respect to Kennedy. They are on the opposite sides politically, but they have known one another for a long time, and Kennedy is known as the Lion of the Senate. I dont see any political gain other than it made Obama look stupid, but thats pretty easy to do anyway without invoking a Kennedy name. I just think he was showing respect to the man and to their friendship. I could be wrong. And I am quite sure that ctbritt, and mythoughts will take my answer and twist it someway to a political statement or lack thereof. "

my thoughts wrote on Oct 3, 2008 1:55 PM:

" "They coached her really well". No one can deney that statement. She repeatedly went back to the subject of energy, and the other items they had drilled into her. It was like she couldn't deviate from the script.
"there were times when she needed to set the record straight on some of Biden's "lies", but for the most part she answered the questions with great poise and knowledge". Guess we weren't watching the same debate. She wasn't scripted that well that she could identify a lie by Biden if he made one.
"the way the economy is right now...he has helped put it there, also. " It's probably true that Palin has done little to effect the economy in the US., and I suppose all congress can be held somewhat guilty.

Farmboy, your very statement gives me a
clue to your knowledge.
You didn't ask me but I have a tendency to give my opinion. I would prefer the somewhat inexperienced, very knowledgeable in foreign-policy and other things, savvy leader (President) and the knowledgeable, experienced, savvy apprentice (Vice President)? "

I am not sure how you felt about it, but
I have read Obamas book "Dreams From My Father" and found it to give me a good perspective to Obama's understanding of the world problems, the plight of the nonrich, and the experiences by all who are not completely Caucasian.
"An inexperienced junior senator with close associations to terrorists/criminals/felons and racists who has a VP candidate that is a well known and documented liar versus a War Hero and an inexperienced Washington outsider who speaks to and connects with the people." Quite a statement!!!!
Too bad so few people agree with it. Its getting out of date to try to use the terrorists/criminals/felons/racists and liar themes. They just don't hold water. And that plaguarizing bit is so useless to use to try to prove any point.
"If McCain or Palin had these kinds of associates, the liberal left wing media would be shredding them to pieces right now. In fact, the media would have vetted them right out of the race. We all know that the left wing liberal media is running the show on this race. They can not stand anything Republican or conservative, which is highly evidenced by the stance of the New York Times, among the few." I believe you have stated this before and it did you no more good then then it does now.
One thing we can ALWAYS count on is for the righties to claim the media is biased. "

deja moo wrote on Oct 3, 2008 1:54 PM:

" Regardless of whether Governor Palin is a nice person or not she isn't ready to be Vice President.

BTW, what can being sexy possibly have with being prepared to be vice president? "

comon wrote on Oct 3, 2008 1:43 PM:

" Could it be that there was a McCain stratagy for pulling his campaign ads in Mich. and conceding that battle ground state to Obama on the same day as the VP debate. Could it be that he expected Palin to do poorly and if McCains popularity goes down he can blame it on the debate? "

gitwitit wrote on Oct 3, 2008 1:41 PM:

" Renee-that is a fair question. I guess my thought process is that I want a president who is well balanced in all areas, but it is important that any President surrounds himself with a strong support system; the head of that support system being the VP. No one President will ever be the most knowledgeable individual on every topic, but it is important that they have a good handle on each topic and that they, along with their support system, are able to make the best decisions for this country.

Either way, I think both administrations are knowledgeable about foreign policy, but they have very differing opinions about how to approach the issues at hand. That is why I, as an independent, will vote for the administration that my ideals and beliefs are most in line with. I would never vote Republican or Democrat just because historically my ideals have been more in line with one party or the other. Historically, it doesn't really matter to me. I want to look at the current situations and the decisions that will need to be made in the next four years and beyond.

Both candidates have commented several times that they will rely on the leaders who are on the ground in foreign countries, to help keep them informed as to what steps are needed. "

Renee wrote on Oct 3, 2008 1:41 PM:

" OneVoice: You are absolutely right! That is a chronicle of Obama's journey through self-creation! And it is really surprising how transparent that message is in his book! It is also very clear how much race is a factor of his identity, especially since he likes to say he is NOT about race. He is ALL about his race and that doesn't jive with his promises to "unify." "

joeysilvera wrote on Oct 3, 2008 1:32 PM:

" Too bad Palin wasn't running for President. She is sexy! Her chances are really hurt with a grumpy old man by her side. "

wordtoyamutha wrote on Oct 3, 2008 1:18 PM:

" Renee,

The difference between spin on Obama and the spin on Palin is that her's is self inflicted.

It wasn't Obama that lied about "The bridge to nowhere" it wasn't Obama that lied about being against earmarks when she had clearly utilized them under her time as Mayor as well as Govenor.

It also wasn't Obama that couldn't answer simple questions form Katie Couric and then complain about journalistic "gotcha" tactics.

And yes, it's perplexing to think somebody so unqualified to be VP could be that close to the President of the US. "

OneVoice wrote on Oct 3, 2008 12:26 PM:

" I challenge all of you to do a little light reading at night instead of watching t.v. May I recommend "Barack Obama, Dreams From My Father". You will think differently about this man afer you read what HE says about HIMSELF! Bagodad, maybe you should do some light reading before November, as I don't want "that type of person sleeping in the White House." "

Zonk wrote on Oct 3, 2008 11:58 AM:

" The one question she had been unprepared for in regard to VP being given more legisative powers was flubbed. Goes to the point of individual thinking on the spot, which I don't feel she has. I worry she will be a mere puppet of the back room task masters. Plus, she didn't answer the questions posed for the first hour, simply went on about talkign points. "

bagodad wrote on Oct 3, 2008 11:57 AM:

" There are some who can't think of a reason to vote for McCain except he was once a prisoner of war and he's not Barack Obama. They list people who Obama once served on a board with and his past reverend as the reason why we shouldn't vote for Obama. Well let me remind you that McCain is married to a drug addict and a thief. Cindy McCain stole drugs from people less fortunate than herself to satisfy her habit. I REALLY don't want that type of person sleeping in the White House! "

Renee wrote on Oct 3, 2008 11:52 AM:

" gitwitit: I appreciate your fair and balanced analysis of the debate! I have a question in light of your statement that the most important issue is how the Middle East will be handled. Would you prefer the leader (President) to be the more knowledgeable, experienced, foreign-policy savvy with an inexperienced apprentice (Vice President)? Or would you prefer and inexperienced, less-knowledgeable, and lacking in foreign-policy savvy leader (President) and the knowledgeable, experienced, savvy apprentice (Vice President)? "

farmboy wrote on Oct 3, 2008 11:50 AM:

" what i would like to see is palin debate obama. she would put in him in his place so fast he wouldn't know what hit him. as he is a very dumb liberal. "

rkelachim wrote on Oct 3, 2008 11:46 AM:

" What are you talking about??? Yes, both candidates dodged SOME questions. But Palin answered NONE OF THEM! You really couldn't tell which of Palin's responses where scripted??? REALLY??? YOu know how most of the time she struggled to find and assembled words to her responses-but once in a while she would rattle off some cliche' with no problems (a cliche that didn't address the question, mind you). That's how you can tell it was a scripted response. "

Renee wrote on Oct 3, 2008 11:41 AM:

" Word: why is the "perpetual spin" about Obama irrelevant, but the "spin" on Sarah is relevant? Is Sarah, as a potential VICE President somehow more intimadating than the potential President? "

holycow wrote on Oct 3, 2008 11:40 AM:

" To Momma23- "I think most men out there are just too scared of having a woman in the office of VP, judging by most of the negative, uneducated comments made towards Palin on this website." -- Have you actually read anything about Sarah Palin or are you just going on the basis that she's a woman? I'm a woman too and would never want someone with her outlook in the position to become president someday. I really find it hard to believe that there is anyone out there who would consider voting for McCain/Palin. It has nothing to do with her gender--they are both scary. "

gitwitit wrote on Oct 3, 2008 11:37 AM:

" I consider myself an independent and watched the debate without bias for one side or the other. I think Governor Palin is a very likeable person who is very confident in her abilities. However, the likeability factor and her ability to relate to the "average joe" should not supercede the fact that she avoided many of the questions that were asked by the moderator. Just because she cracked a few jokes and was rather light hearted throughout the debate, should not blind you to the fact that she is very inexperienced in almost all of the topics that were discussed.

Both candidates stretched truths and told half-truths in order to make points, which is never uncommon in the debate arena. I don't think either one did this more than the other.

The most important issue facing the next ticket will be how to handle the Middle East. Whether it be Iraq, Iran, Israel, Pakistan, etc., there needs to be some fundamental changes in our policy and approach. I really disliked the fact that when questions were asked about how policy would change in regard to this area of the world, governor Palin consistently avoided providing any real answers. The moderator asked a question about nuclear Iran or pakistan and she wants to go back and talk about energy independence. It makes me very nervous to think that John McCain (70+ years old) picked someone that does not have the necessary experience if she were to ever be left in charge. It felt a little bit like listening to John McCain himself. I think she repeated a lot of what he said in his debate, but the substance was very lacking.

Biden is not flashy, but you cannot deny that he understands foreign policy. He has a little bit of John McCain (maverick) in him, as he is not afraid to tell his real thoughts. I was surprised that he did not press her for answers on some of the moderator's questions, but I though he did as expected and seemed like the more knowledgeable of the two.

I give Biden a B+ for being willing to actually talk about all issues and doing a pretty good job overall. I give Palin a C; average. She did better than expected in being comfortable on stage, but she avoided a lot of important questions, which frustrated me a little. "

~Momma23~ wrote on Oct 3, 2008 11:33 AM:

" So nra, you would rather trust two lawyers??? THAT is scary.

I felt Palin answered the questions very well and I did not feel that they were rehearsed at all. Yes, there were times when she needed to set the record straight on some of Biden's "lies", but for the most part she answered the questions with great poise and knowledge. I think most men out there are just too scared of having a woman in the office of VP, judging by most of the negative, uneducated comments made towards Palin on this website. There were unanswered questions on the part of both vp candidates, so don't just blame Palin. She showed great courage even standing up there, knowing that the liberal media was against her and analyzing her every move. To me, Biden was the one fumbling over his words and making mistakes all night-I certainly was not impressed with him. For having 30 year in public office, he really cannot complain about the way the economy is right now...he has helped put it there, also. "

zaig wrote on Oct 3, 2008 11:21 AM:

" I am a registered independent and vote for candidates from both parties. Here's an unbiased view: Both Biden and Palin did pretty well in the debate. Nothing happened that will affect the outcome of the election. However, Dems have to be disappointed that Palin didn't make a fool of herself after the previous interviews she gave. I admit I was surprised. "

NRA wrote on Oct 3, 2008 11:20 AM:

" Palin showed her lack of a credible education in last nights debate, i.e., unable to answer questions so switching to something she did understand, and injecting a lot of extra words that didn't fit the sentence. She does have a journalism degree so I would expect better of her. However, she attended 5-6 colleges to obtain it and the degree finally came from a non-credited college. Not a very good track record and McCain's isn't much better. He graduated from the Naval Academy but 5th from the bottom of a class of 899 students. On the other hand, both Obama and Biden are lawyers. Palin did exceed my expectations last night in that she didn't vomit all over herself. I'm betting she probably won't be allowed to appear in public a lot in the next 30+ days. "

comon wrote on Oct 3, 2008 11:03 AM:

" I think instead of having a vote at the ballot box this election that we should try something else. How about a beer drinking contest between the voters? The voters that drink the most beer for a party, that party wins the election! "

wordtoyamutha wrote on Oct 3, 2008 11:02 AM:

" To all the simple minded right wing lunatics like "BAKERRYAN", nobody cares anymore about your propagana. This perpetual spin about Obama's so called associations etc. is no longer relevant. People have seen enough of Obama now to understand how he will move this country forward. Which is why your seeing polls swinging his way at the most key time you want to see these swings.

So take your Sean Hannity talking points and post them on NRO where they'll get more use. "

joeysilvera wrote on Oct 3, 2008 11:02 AM:

" Surge in Iraq? I definately had a "surge" looking at her all night! Great choice McCain! "

mnmaniac wrote on Oct 3, 2008 10:59 AM:

" "“They coached her really well,” said Gloria Goll of Klemme, chairwoman of Hancock County Democrats."

Typical partisan Democrat response. "

Renee wrote on Oct 3, 2008 10:59 AM:

" I would rather listen to Sarah's "accent" than any of the Kennedy's or James Carville. "

MadAlice wrote on Oct 3, 2008 10:51 AM:

" I was very disappointed in Palin last night. I'm not a fan of her to begin with, but this was a debate. Instead of answering the questions asked, she says I'm just going to talk to America. That's not what last night was about. It was to see how both candidates did on the spur of the moment, with questions regarding the important issues in this country. All she did was keep repeating her rehersed comments and talking about her being "mayor" I hardly think being a mayor in Alaska qualifies her to run this country. NOt to mention, I was really tired of her saying Darn. You would think her vocabulary would be a little more professional. Who want eye candy in the white house? Certainly not me. "

xander wrote on Oct 3, 2008 10:46 AM:

" MJF, I'm wondering if watching "Fargo" over and over again was one of her Debate Camp classes. "

comon wrote on Oct 3, 2008 10:39 AM:

" I see alot of attempts at humor here but don't give up your day job. You will never make it in the comedy field. At least it shows how big of a joke that this election is! How the US has to be a laugh heard around the world. The terrorist are probably really cracking up and trying to decide if it is even necessary to attack the US with all that is happening here. "

iloveLMGirl wrote on Oct 3, 2008 10:36 AM:

" Is Alaska even a real state? No one really lives there to call it a state. "

bakerryan wrote on Oct 3, 2008 10:33 AM:

" Obama has called two members of the Weather Underground his friends, a man named Ayers and a woman named Bernardine Dohrn both members of the Weather Underground. The Underground was directly responsible for at least 25 bombings during the late 60's, and early 70's resulting in the death of a San Francisco Police Officer. Ayers and Dorhn went into hiding from the FBI until they turned themselves in, in 1980. As recently as 2001, Obama was seen with them at fund raisers in the local Chicago area. Also, a man named Khalidi, who was an operative of the PLO and spokesperson for Yassar Arafat, at the time the US considered the PLO a terrorist organization. Mr. Khalidi is also part of a group at Columbia University that bemoans the formation of Israel. While in Illinois, Obama was the Director of Woods Fund which gave Khalidi over $75,000 from 2001-2002. His support of Farahkan (sp) who is incredibly racist and radical and was a founding member of the Black Panthers. Lastly, his long time Pastor of 20 years Rev. Wright, who we have ALL seen on TV. In fact Obama made a public statement that he was denouncing Wright AFTER 20 years of being associated with him. Was that strictly a political move to distance himself from his racist and anti american Pastor? You can bet it was, with 100% certantity. However, no one can call someone a Pastor and friend for 20 years and NOT hear one word they are saying? If McCain or Palin had these kinds of associates, the liberal left wing media would be shredding them to pieces right now. In fact, the media would have vetted them right out of the race. We all know that the left wing liberal media is running the show on this race. They can not stand anything Republican or conservative, which is highly evidenced by the stance of the New York Times, among the few. "

rkelachim wrote on Oct 3, 2008 10:28 AM:

" Did Palin answer any of the questions asked last night? It was painful to watch her bumble and stumble through most of that debate. It was even more painful to watch the 1 or 2 responses she had that were so OBVIOULSY scripted for her prior to the debate. "What do you know Joe?" Does anyone buy this garbage? "

MJF wrote on Oct 3, 2008 10:17 AM:

" The first thing Sarah Palin will do (after she expands her power as VP in the Senate) is to enact legislation to make changes to our English language. No longer will we have to pronounce those pesky "g's" on the end of "ing" words. In addition, "For" will become "fer" and "Washington" will become "Warshington". I wonder if she applies moose grease to her Achilles Heel when it flares up? "

Tom Ace wrote on Oct 3, 2008 9:56 AM:

" bakerryan, who are these "terrorists" he has close personal ties too? "

bradchaffee wrote on Oct 3, 2008 9:39 AM:

" To trader,

The reason Biden never brought any of his great idea foward is because he has none, and the ones he does bring foward are ALWAYS someone elses, and then gets caught using them. I think its called plagaurizing (sp)?? If I remember correctly, slow Joe pulled himself from a Presidental candidacy because he was caught redhanded by the Liberal/elitist press for plagaurizing. Even the liberal left wing press couldnt stand that. "

bradchaffee wrote on Oct 3, 2008 9:35 AM:

" To bakerryan,

You are absolutely my newest hero, whoever you are.

Lib/Dems get used to seeing more of Governor Palin. I understand that there is newly discovered mental health issue that afflicts just the left wing liberal elitists, its called Palin degenartive reflex disorder. When you hear her name, you go into uncontollable twitching, stomach heaves, and your bowels loosen. Most people call it fear, but the lib/dems attached a mental health issue to it so as to ask for compensation.

Did anyone else besides me happen to notice how quiet SLOW JOE was when the Governor was discussing her EXECUTIVE LEVEL experience and her accomplishments in Alaska, to include the largest Construction project in US history? He was very quiet. Heck, a couple times during the debate I thought for sure that Joe would vote for her.

McCain/Palin 08. "

EdwinMeese wrote on Oct 3, 2008 9:32 AM:

" All the polls are saying Biden clinched it, not that a VP debate has ever and will ever matter. Say it ain't so! "

sumisumi wrote on Oct 3, 2008 9:30 AM:

" While Palin did better than I had expected, she didn't answer any questions AT ALL. All she did was go back to the subject of energy. It was like she couldn't deviate from the script. Her handlers must have done a lot of work with her (losing the accent at times, bringing actual examples to the table--thanks Katie Couric!!), but she still failed in my book. In my opinion, she's been skating by her whole life on "cute," which certainly shouldn't make it in the White House. We've had 8 years of that crap already. Time for a change. "

Renee wrote on Oct 3, 2008 9:25 AM:

" BuffaloBill: I cringed when Biden said "Bosniacs!"
Bakerryan: Great way to sum it up!
Watching with Interest: As of last night, Limbaugh had counted 10 flat-out untruths by Biden! Still counting today.....
My four year-old daughter with Down Syndrome and I have a lot of confidence in Sarah! "

iloveLMGirl wrote on Oct 3, 2008 8:46 AM:

" It was so sad how bad Palin did. She didn't even answer half the questions. After this debate I have now changed my vote to Obama/Biden. "

trader wrote on Oct 3, 2008 8:26 AM:

" I will take a chance on a Gov with an approval in her state of over 70%, versus a Senator who has been in there for 36 years and part of a group (Congress) with an approval rating of 10%. If Bidens ideas are so great, why hasnt he implemented them over the years? He had chances under Democratic Presidents. "

~Momma23~ wrote on Oct 3, 2008 8:26 AM:

" Vince obviously has no clue what he is talking about and neither does rasmus. How many 8 year olds (or cheerleaders) could hold their own in a vp debate! To even say that shows how truly ignorant you really are. I was undecided and completely open minded going into this debate, not knowing what to expect and I think Palin did great! I love how the liberal media had all but counted her out and she more than stood her own. She is a very strong, confident, knowledgeable woman and I felt she answered the questions much better than Biden. McCain/Palin definitely have MY vote! I think she brings a freshness and yet an "averageness" to the ticket, which is exactly what we need in office! Someone to fight for the average person. I think too often the media has focused on Palin and her inexperience and yet Obama has even LESS experience than Palin! Palin is not "all fluff"-she is a strong, confident, intelligent woman who can hold her own against any man and I think that scares some men! McCain/Palin is just what this country needs! "

buffalobill wrote on Oct 3, 2008 8:04 AM:

" it made me cringe when she said nuke-u-lur. "

rasmus wrote on Oct 3, 2008 8:02 AM:

" I'll say Palin did better then I thought she would but most of her answers lack any substance, she sounded like a cheerleader. She's all fluff, and shouldn't be a VP or even a Governor. "

bakerryan wrote on Oct 3, 2008 7:53 AM:

" After two debates our choices are:

An inexperienced junior senator with close associations to terrorists/criminals/felons and racists who has a VP candidate that is a well known and documented liar versus a War Hero and an inexperienced Washington outsider who speaks to and connects with the people.

I choose the latter of the two. "

xander wrote on Oct 3, 2008 7:47 AM:

" The next Thatcher? Palin in 2012? Real change? Wow. I need a drink. "

Halos wrote on Oct 3, 2008 7:33 AM:

" I thought they both did well, except for the time the moderator said that neither of them answered the question, and the untruths told on both sides. I find it helpful to go to factcheck.org after the debates to find out the truth of statements made. The debate, however, did not convince me to vote for either of them. "

Smokehouse wrote on Oct 3, 2008 7:24 AM:

" This is a little confusing.....The Obama campaign spent the last 2 weeks sending out press releases noting how Palin is a skilled debater and expected her to do very well. Now democrats say she did better than they thought. Politics as usual, I guess...Say what you are suppose to say instead of what you really think. "

2731 wrote on Oct 3, 2008 7:15 AM:

" Since when does "change" come from the bottom of the ticket? Unless you are Dick Cheney of course. "

al wrote on Oct 3, 2008 7:13 AM:

" What a refreshing, down-to-earth woman. Have we got the making of a Maggie Thatcher? Given time, I'm sure this "gal" could and should be our future...so let's cut all the bull crap of , "Well, she did better than I thought"....etc. etc. She did "good" and cut through Joe's "facts and figures" and showed many of them for what they were...stretches of the truth if not outright falsehoods.

Biden did well, no doubt, but on the likeable poll it was Sarah hands down. She's my gal!

The only one that has acted like an eight-year-old here is VINCE...way to go lefty! "

Watching With Interest wrote on Oct 3, 2008 6:54 AM:

" I counted at least 7 misrepresentations that Joe Biden said during the debate.
That's a nice way of saying he lied. Biden has held office for over 30 years and is part of the problem with our government and the current economic mess. McCain did not vote for the things Biden said he did. The "Real Change" we want can only come from people like Sarah Palin. She has my vote!!!! "

Resident wrote on Oct 3, 2008 6:39 AM:

" Loose talk sells no hot dogs! Because of all the negative talk by the Democrats during this campaign, we find ourselves in a declining economy. A new qualified person shows up on the political scene and what do I read in here? More nasty, negative talk. Vunce should be ashamed of himself for blogging such a comment. Lee Iacocca said, we would all be better off if we voted for the guy at the coffee table. Ms. Palin would be a breath of fresh air if she gets elected. America needs many new people to be elected and Sarah Palin is a welcome site. "

Joe Sixpack wrote on Oct 3, 2008 6:27 AM:

" Sarak Palin is middle America at it's finest and folks can connect with her. I am very pleased that she did better than everyone expected she would. The liberal press had her counted out even before she stepped on the stage. At times it sounded to me that Joe Biden thought he was the one running for president, not his running mate. "

get a job Max wrote on Oct 3, 2008 6:23 AM:

" Palin did great!! It wasn't enough to save McCain's campaign, which died with his vote for the bailout, but she put herself in an excellent position for 2012. "

JOJODEMO wrote on Oct 3, 2008 5:34 AM:

" Average 8 year old mind to the White House please. I think she got voters for McCain/Palin,simply on performance and forwardness alone. "

farmboy wrote on Oct 3, 2008 4:33 AM:

" vunce i would like very much to see you get up there and do what she did. you would be on the same quesstion when the debate was all over. i think she did a very good job. biden sure didn't do very well and how many years has he been in congress? "

Vince wrote on Oct 3, 2008 2:34 AM:

" Palin has the mind of the average 8 year old.

The only way she can sound like an adult is if she doesnt have to use her brain to think on the spot. "

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